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 | sham..im  a bit fuzzy on that,,destroy a dark one ? AGREE WITH JAZZ ABOUT WUT?
 hey
 XXXXX... YOUR SO WRONG
 Bible-reading based religion is of more recent times
 what's up?
 IVE DONE NOTHING WRONG
 Xscath why would you even come into this room......do you help to be saved?
 JUST VOICING MY OPINION
 Regarding the impossibility of making meaning circulate
 I'm in my house alone physically, though not spiritually.  I really don't care to debate my
 so what's up in your corner vertual
 Ronee...bless your heart...you have truly suffered
 among the masses,
 For hundreds of years most faithful never held or read a Bible
 worthiness in the eyes of the Lord however
 Dark one as the face that hides behind the normal perception
 the best example is God.
 just eatin some yoguret
 yogurt*
 Ronee...there is a lesson in everything that happens to us
 GOD JUST ISNT REAL
 The masses have hardly retained anything but the image of him,
 I like yogurt, too.  DQ's better
 Has killed two of my family
 MEG what what other groups do you like
 jazz...i have no family accept my sister in NM and i lost my father the same time
 never the Idea.
 what about you?
 Even after the invention of printing in the 15th c. AD, few read Bibles
 sham.. i see..
 he was made to give peoplel ike u a reason to live
 X, open your mind and your heart will surely follow
 We may not always understand untill much later
 how did he kill them
 True religion is the act of an individual soul in its self-conscious relations
 do you belive in satan then?
 with the Creator; organized religion is man's attempt to socialize the
 worship of individual religionists.
 jazz...that i lost my job...and i made 15 dollars an hour
 They have never been affected by the Idea of God,
 umm, Jars of Clay.... I like rich Mullins
 hey X
 I'm trying to get on a teen chat romm with Zjam
 can u see the wind
 Worship is the act of a part identifying itself with the Whole; the finite with
 the Infinite; the son with the Father; time in the act of striking step with
 jazz...now i have nothing but unemployement - but iam happy
 which has remained a matter for the clergy,
 Xs..okay to think that- natural & normal for Adamic, once-born to believe that- need rebirth
 hello felow christians
 cool
 eternity. Worship is the act of the son's personal communion with the
 Ronee...so you are alone with no family?
 divine Father, the assumption of refreshing, creative, fraternal, and romantic
 attitudes by the human soul-spirit.
 jazz...i know that God will provide...
 of spirt..peace to you'
 and Dc talk is okay, but they are kinda heavy
 Your religiion is what you make it
 xs Look at ur eyes for a moment look at how they are made, look how beautiful they r, 2 me
 nor by anguish over sin and personal salvation.
 have you ever been on it
 We each come to faith in our God in our own way or not at all
 ummmmmmmmmm......i'm not sure
 What they have retained is the enchantment of
 jazz...yes.  and at times i get so lonely....but then God hears me and iam not
 Worship is the technique of looking to the One for the inspiration of service
 to the many. Worship is the yardstick which measures the extent of the
 damn im very hurt
 and even if i believed in god, im still going to hell, according to Deuteronomy chapter 23
 that just prove that God takes time on u cause he loves u
 saints and martyrs;
 verse 2
 im a bastard
 the old testament was written by god through the
 soul's detachment from the material universe and its simultaneous
 and secure attachment to the spiritual realities of all creation.
 some people get real heavy in here
 i cant go to heave
 the last judgement;
 Ilike 4him, steven curtis chapman  martins  and a whole lot more
 hehe
 the Dance of Death;
 Worship makes one increasingly like the being who is worshipped.
 so where you from?
 so god can suck it
 sorcery;
 I worship the God of my faith at Mass and in Ecclisia
 indiana. and you?
 ohio
 finally a christian chat
 xs why r u saying that
 Through the hand of man divine truth may indeed shine forth, but only of
 hey XSCATHE
 relative purity and only partial divinity. Nothing the hand of human nature
 touches can truly be regarded as infallible.
 the ceremony and spectacle of the Church;
 hey, you're my neighbor!
 xscathex...just like people hate cops..but they call them on the first sight of trouble
 Brownsville worship is my favorite
 becuz its true
 Do you know " I will be here" by Steven Curtis Chapman?
 can u see the wind
 God is with a capitol G.
 i know!
 the immanence of ritual -
 xscathex...so will you do the same for God
 wow!
 The Bible is G_d in man's image.
 hehe
 Ronee...well you have friends here
 no
 i want call on god for shit
 hands of those people that followed thier God centuries befor the
 When you measure G_d by the Bible you have elevated it above him and
 this is idolatry plain and simple.
 How's the weather there?  65 here
 YEp
 jazz...thanks
 the contrast to the transcendence of the Idea.
 Fact becomes legend, legend becomes myth, myth becomes scripture and scripture
 becomes an idol when it is used as a substitute for true faith.
 They were
 i cant go to heaven
 and have remained
 so wuts the point
 pagans,
 The Bible is not God in my faith, that would make the Bible an idol to me
 hmm, it's really sunny with a chance of some more sun
 jazz...i like to come to the chat rooms at times - just to hear Gods words
 even if i were the perfect christian
 in their way,
 why do people have to make God so complicated?
 Not all idols are made of stone and clay, some are made of paper and ink,
 even flesh and blood.
 xs why can't u go to heaven ??
 never haunted by the Supreme Authority,
 XS...have you chosen not to go to heaven?
 when He is so simple!
 the first established Church
 one sec
 ill show your
 I am not much inot idols these days
 but surviving on the small change of images,
 xscathex...yes you can go to heaven - Jesus died and suffered just for you so you could
 One is at perfect peace whose mind is stayed on truth, whose mind is stayed on G_d.
 supersition
 Ronee...sometimes we get Gods word, sometimes arguing!
 and the devil.
 if your were just a christian then you would be allowed in the gates of HEAVEN!
 yeah i know shotzy
 read Deuteronomy chapter 23, verse 2
 read that
 G-d, is this an affectation of early Hebrew?
 are you a christian vertual?
 Why is having the Bible for an "idol" wrong?  It is something you should adore.  The Bible
 yep, born again
 jazz...i know - ive been here before - for the last few months
 im a bastard, i cant go to heaven and neithre can 10 generations after me
 May the love of G_d the Father, the mercy of G_d the Son, and tender
 Someone say it out louad
 ministry of G_d the Spirit encircle and fill your lives to overflowing that you
 is God's Word.
 too, may be known as a friend of G_d!
 go read now
 If G-d, then why not yhwh
 Degraded practices with regard to the spiritual wager of faith?
 and yourself?
 thats why i cant go to heaven
 jazz...its sad isnt it...people just dont understand how merciful God really is
 Indeed.
 loud
 me too and lovin it.  It's so nice to have God for me and on my side, you know?
 It is their particular way,
 XS...fill your heart with love....
 why would i base my life on a fictional book
 But if you are into latinates of early Hebrew, so be it
 through the banality of rituals and profane simulacra,
 my heart has plenty of love
 Ronee...you are certainly right about that one!
 yeppers1
 !*
 can you qoute it for us XscatheX
 Xs, have you ever tried to prove God's Word?
 but it has no love for a fictional caracter
 God made it too easy to be a christian.  Jesus did all the suffering and all we have to do
 of refusing the categoriacal imperative of morality and faith,
 y-hw-h, not that would make some sense
 yeah
 SCBDMB, The "WORD" of G_d is the very living Spirit of G_d which dwells within you.
 especailly when i went through some hard things
 xs what's that verse again ??
 is accept his sacrifice
 ill quote it
 XS...and are you truly happy?
 one second
 the sublime imperative of meaning,
 you base your life nOW- on false "book" of SELF's view and opinion- 2nd opinion- God's cant
 yep
 xscathex...you know nothing of love...When you see Gods light and blood - then you have seen
 love
 hurt..:0 )
 please do
 which they have always rejected.
 "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of
 G_d. Romans 8:16"
 For as many as are led by the Spirit of G_d, they are the sons of G_d. Romans 8:14
 ROMANS 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead
 dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your
 mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
 How long has it been since someone other than Satan has hugged you X?
 What so ever you do to the least of my chirldren, that you do unto me, said the L-rd
 It isn't that they have not been able to attain the higher enlightenment of religion:
 im very hurt
 (((((((((((X)))))))))))))
 they have ignored it.
 Hello Room
 XS...what has Saton done for you lately?
 Hi Nat
 hi nat
 Religion is not a technique for attaining a static and blissful peace of mind;
 g__d G_d
 it is an impulse for organizing the soul for dynamic service. It is the
 enlistment of the totality of selfhood in the loyal service of loving G_d and
 serving man.
 They don't refuse to dies for a faith,
 for a cause,
 I love Jesus. Yes I do. I love Jesus. How about you?
 Deuteronomy 23:2  "One of illegitmate birth shall not enter the assembly of the Lord; even t
 for an idol.
 jazz...i love you! You are my sister in Christ...what a beautiful soul you have
 to
 You may preach a religion "about" Jesus, but perforce, you must LIVE the
 the tenth generation
 religion "of" Jesus.
 hehe
 What they refuse is transcendence;
 _n j_mp_ng J_s_s
 of his descendants shall enter the assembly of the lord
 ronee...you are the one with the beautiful soul!...
 there
 hi egy
 the uncertainty,
 u see
 Jesus does not require his disciples to believe in him but rather to believe
 with him, believe in the reality of the love of G_d and in full confidence
 accept the security of the assurance of sonship with the heavenly
 the difference,
 the waiting,
 i cant go to heaven anyways
 xscathex...thats not true...Jesus came so that you could
 Father. The Master desires that all his followers should fully share his
 transcendent faith. Jesus most touchingly challenged his followers, not only
 Jesus IS Eternal LIFE- makes bastards..SONS of God- in HIS Eternal Life..(yahoo)...
 gotta go vertual.  talk latter.
 Jesus didnt come so i could
 wut the hell
 to believe what he believed, but also to believe as he believed. This is
 the full significance of his one supreme requirement, "Follow me."
 ok
 the asceticism which constitute the sublime exaction of religion.
 bye bye!
 by
 jesus has nothing to do with that verse
 every one can go to Heaven if they truely repent of thier sins thant is why Christ died for
 Anyone figure this out?   j_    p_ng    J_s_s
 xs  if u can't then why do u think god died 4 u
 Jesus came because He loves you X
 The many religions of earth are all good to the extent that they bring man to
 G_d and bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a fallacy  for any
 I mean jesus
 xscathex...yes he did...he spoke of tradition and said that he ws the true way
 For the masses,
 god gave up his son so we could be one in heaven
 group of religionists to conceive of their creed as THE TRUTH; such
 attitudes bespeak more of theologic arrogance than of certainty of faith.
 the Kindgom of God has always been already here on earth,
 xscathex...God doesnt want any of his children to lose their souls
 hell is here too!
 Sectarianism is a disease of institutional religion, and dogmatism is an
 enslavement of the spiritual nature.
 in the pagan immanence of images,
 Jesus BECAME that verse- FOR - you..so you could BE adapted INTO the Eternal Life's ..life!
 in the spectacle of it presented by the Church.
 What is faith Agon.. a beleif in something intangible.. like Evolution..:)
 no
 us to open the door to forgiveness and Love
 Amen ronee, and X?  You are a child of God.  God weeps for you and so do we
 Fantastic distortion of the religious principle.
 xs Jesus loves why is it hard 4 u to except that
 Agondontor, take you meds and the it will all look better to you
 You certainly have no certainty in theory.. you have to put Faith into that which is unknown
 xscathex...Jesus came and died so that you would have life
 but would you want to become a christian XscatheX
 The masses have absorbed religion by their sorcerous
 wut ever
 jesus didnt even come
 and spectacular manner of practising it.
 hi everyone
 n_w   n-w,  l_ts   b_   n_c_
 welcome Chipper
 xscathex...once you are baptist and believe in Jesus - you have your birthright
 no i wouldnt want to become a christian
 i already tried that for 8 years
 Hi Chip
 All the great schemas of reason have suffered the same fate.
 xscathex...your inheritance -
 There is not an earth religion that could not profitably study and assimilate
 the best of the truths contained in every other faith, for all contain truth.
 They ahve only traced their trajectory,
 With all sincerity X?
 Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their neighbors' living
 spiritual faith rather than to denounce the worst in their lingering
 superstitions and outworn rituals.
 sounds you tried YOUR version of  rebirth- relax and let Jesus live FOR ya..!
 then why is a big deal to you.....why argue something false but not even want it
 <------ 12/f/south carolina that goes to a christian school
 they have only followed the thread of their history along the thin edge
 xs look at ur eyes 4 a moment, see how they beautifully and wonderfully made, jesus took
 of the social stratum
 you are right.. it is an Extrateristrial message.. sent from one outside our Time domain..
 bearing meaning
 took time on u cause he loves u
 look, god isnt real
 who says we need vowel, or even spaces,  theHebrews didn't
 God is not bound by time..
 once we QUIT TRYING to live FOR Jesus-- THEN, Jesus can live HIS LIFE..FOR us..:0 )
 (and in particular of the stratum bearing social meaning)
 xscathex...listen my mother had me when she was 16, killed a man and then tried to kill me
 He shed blodd because He loves U X
 God is real
 The MagicOf Myth, The Spirit of G_d dwells WITHIN YOU
 , and on the whole they have only
 justrightallyourwordsinwithoutvowelsorspaces
 penetrated
 xscathex....at the age of 3....by your standards i too dont belong in heaven
 xscathex...but i searched for God - and i found him - he was there all along
 ahh yes.. it does.. not in my time.. in his movement into this domain
 i saw my friend die 14 days ago
 into the masses at the cost of their misappropriation,
 xs everybreath that u take just proves that god is real
 Happi2BSvd, his blood was shed because he was put to death at the hands of ignorant
 mortals
 jstrghttllyrwdswthtvwls
 of their radical distortion.
 but you are going RONEE....and so can you XscatheX
 think of how much more evidence we have that Jesus did walk the earth against your beliefs x
 we tend to look at God in our dimension.. but God is outside it
 happi, dont talk to me about bad lifes and how god saved u
 racil distortiion they have long noses?
 Ronee...god love you...even going through all of that and you still found your way to God
 i had the worst life of all
 So it was with Historical Reason,
 The MagicOf Myth, time is only relative to eternity
 and god didnt do shit for me
 God's there for the asking X, He is giving you the choice.  Satan uses trickery
 god is anything we want him to be
 i did it for myself
 Political Reason,
 god didnt get me off of drugs
 jazz...it wasnt until 4 years ago tho
 i did
 Cultural Reason,
 It's your choice, a very fair and rewarding God.
 XS...telll ys about your life, would you?
 Revolutionary REason, -
 We irish have "racial distortion," long noses
 Agon.. time is not present in eternity.. see?
 xs maybe because u didn't ask
 The MagicOf Myth, G_d is infinite and eternal but he has bridged the gap
 through his Spirit endowment
 if u want to here it
 sure
 ill tell u
 talk to you all again may OUR Lord shine forth from you all
 so even with the very REason of the Social,
 XS...go ahead....
 Hello roomies!
 Ah the nut talk is going well in here this morn
 everyone has their own view of what God is
 the most interesting since this seems inherent to the masses,
 True BoBud
 I want to hear X,  but please, watch the language!
 while my mom was pregnat with me she was beat daily by a drunk asshole (my dad)
 and it may be a veiw that there is no God
 then
 and appears to have produced them throughout its evolution.
 by age 3 she left him
 yes God bridged the Gap.. made himself flesh as the bible said.. to make us worthy to come
 Or an agnostic might say, "It bests the hell out of me." so to speak
 She made a good choice X
 into his presence
 soon after i was put into foster care
 Are the masses the "mirror of the social"?
 XS...I am so sorry to hear that...you have hurt a lot inside
 No,
 cuz she was on drugs
 the Spirit is the eternal part of God dwelling within us.. yes
 The MagicOf Myth, Eternity is inclusive of all time, it is not separate from it
 then my shitty dad got me out of there
 they don't reflect the social ,
 i lived there for 8 years
 If one is simple they may well have a simple God
 nor are they reflected in the social -
 saw him beat my step mom while getting drunk and beating us to
 then
 I disagree Agon.. eternity is OUTSIDE of time.. it has no limits that Time would place on it
 at the time
 Is a simple God better than no God at all?
 it is the mirror of the social which shatters to pieces on them.
 my mother was in and out of prison
 for drugs and shit
 Xc it says in the bible that "  IF MY FATHER AND MY MOTHER REJECTED ME THE LORD WILL
 i never got to see her
 Time is a dimension.. it shifts and changes.. this is proven both theologically and physical
 RECIEVE ME '''
 We are like the five blind men and the elephant, we all think we see God
 The MagicOf Myth, Time and space constrained reality is relative to but
 also pervaded by infinity and eternity
 Even this image is not right,
 XS...no person should have to go what you have gone through
 so
 since it still evokes the idea of a hard substance,
 when she got here life cleaned up
 of an opaque resistance.
 God is life:
 i wanted to live with her
 The MagicOf Myth, Time is a constraint upon eternity
 Rather,
 If you see God, you might want to seek help
 egy-that's not true, GOD will never reject you
 but my dad wouldnt let me
 so i ran away
 If Time can be changed.. how can it be eternal Agon.. it would place limitations on it
 the masses function as a gigantic black hole
 hi room
 when i had to go back
 i got kicked out anyways
 which inexorably inflects,
 at age 13
 da i didn't say God will reject anyone
 then i went to live with my mom
 Mass is a blakc hole to you, I find great awe there
 i got into drugs
 I kindly disagree Agon.. time is within the finite
 bend and distorts all energy and light radiation approaching it:
 The MagicOf Myth, time IS al limitation uopn eternity, it is a part of it,
 eternity is inclusive of finite reality
 but god didnt help me through any of that
 I am at times bruched with the wisdom of awe at Mass
 NEWS FLASH...GOD IS MOVING IN THE CHURCH TODAY...GET IN ON IT NOW!
 an implosive sphere,
 REVIVAL HAS COME
 in which the curvature of spaces accelerates,
 i got off of drugs by having good friends and selfcontrol
 not god
 The Vatican sold God a new church
 REVIVAL IS HERE
 xscathex....wow.  God did help you - because you shared this story
 so THAT MEANS HE ISNT REAL
 does anyone surf
 in which all dimensions curve back on themselves
 The MagicOf Myth, eternity includes past present and future
 xscathex...thank you for sharing...you are such a strong person
 XS...you have truly suffered ..I am so sorry to hear you have been hurt so bad
 Did God make Himself?
 You are a very strong person X
 xscathex...i admire you
 and "in-volve" to the point of annihilation,
 Doow - there was only one Church - there was no new one to sell
 Well who made God?
 dont feel sorry for me
 eternity knows no difference between them Agon..:)
 i am perfectly happy
 leaving in their stead only a sphere of potential engulfment.
 xscathex...i admire your courage and strength
 with out the help of god
 we place the nomers in value of time
 Well the Vatican did sell purgatory to the Fundamentalists you know
 In the maturity of the developing self, the past and future are brought
 together to illuminate the true meaning of the present. As the self matures,
 XS...so you have really never had a home with love?
 I respect your determination to live X
 it reaches further and further back into the past for experience, while
 its wisdom forecasts seek to penetrate deeper and deeper into the unknown
 future. And as the conceiving self extends this reach ever further into both
 i do now
 Doow - Purgatory was believed even before Christ was born
 i have a home with love
 xscathex...you'd be surpirsed how God really was there for you - you jsut dont know it yet
 Maybe God sold the Vatican on the Church
 past and future, so does judgment become less and less dependent
 on the momentary present. In this way does decision-action begin to
 escape from the fetters of the moving present, while it begins to take on the
 GOD WAS NEVER THERE FOR ME
 XS:  You give God no credit?  Where do you suppose the friends came from?
 And so now you really know what love is
 aspects of past-future significance. Patience is exercised by those
 mortals whose time units are short; true maturity transcends patience by a
 forbearance born of real understanding. To become mature is to live
 xs I admire that your courge but I believe that God was watching ur back all that time
 I though Purgatory was a place, the Vatican is into intelectual property
 Careful LAW
 XS..so who was there for you?
 xscathex...Your breathing now arent you - who do you think gave you life
 more intensely in the present, at the same time escaping from the
 limitations of the present. The plans of maturity, founded on past
 experience, are coming into being in the present in such manner as to
 god didnt give me friends
 i got my own friends
 dowwelsl...dont go there
 enhance the values of the future. The time unit of immaturity
 concentrates meaning-value into the present moment in such a way as to
 divorce the present of its true relationship to the not-present--the
 
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